Kathryn interviews poet and teacher advocate Taylor Mali, author of "What Teachers Make: In Praise of the Greatest Job in the World". In response to a snarky laywer's comment about the teaching profession, poet and teacher advocateTaylor Mali wrote a poem called "What Teachers Make" that has over 5 million views on YouTube. Mali's poem started a pro-teacher movement across the country, and Mali expands on the importance of teachers in his latest book What Teachers Make.
Kathryn also discusses how prevalent doping is in the cycling world with competitive cyclist and journalist Dr. Ross Golds
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