Ross has long believed that treatment can only be as good as the people working in the field. Today he is joined by John Joseph- a colleague, friend and someone who has seen virtually every facet of the treatment industry over his 20+ years of sobriety. John will share his personal journey to recovery in addition to chatting with Ross about what he thinks is missing from treatment today, and some "outside the box" ideas about improving the quality of treatment moving forward.
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