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July 14th 2015:Gay Marriage from the Inside Out: Meet Two Diverse Couples Who Will Share Their Journey with Us!

Thanks to the Supreme Court, same-sex marriage is now legal in all states. But what does that actually mean for gay people? Gay marriage is not just a political slogan or an opportunity for benefits and legal status. Any kind of marriage is a choice and challenge. On this show, we’ll talk about gay marriage from the inside out. Meet two very diverse couples. Larry and Corey live in a Southern state where same-sex marriage has NOT been legal. They’ve been together 8 years, but they never before had to confront the question: Should we marry? Debra and Heidi have been together over 30 years. The

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Debra Stern-Ellis, MSW, LCSW

Debra Stern-Ellis, LCSW received her BA in Psychology from UC Santa Barbara and her MSW from San Diego State University. She has worked in a clinical social work position at Sharp Healthcare for 25 years while also serving as the Director of Community Services at JFS of San Diego and the Director of Health Services at the San Diego LGBT Community Center. She was awarded Clinical Social Worker of the Year in 2011. Debra currently thrives as the Oncology Clinical Social Worker at Kaiser Permanente San Diego, honored to work with inspiring patients during an especially vulnerable time in their lives. Debra and Heidi met at UC San Barbara in 1984 and had a commitment ceremony in 1992, the subj
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Heidi Stern-Ellis, MSW, LCSW

Heidi Stern-Ellis, LCSW received her BA in Psychology from UC Santa Barbara and her MSW from San Diego State University. She has worked for Rady Children’s Hospital for the past 23 years, currently in the position of Clinical Supervisor for the Trauma Counseling and KidStart programs at the Chadwick Center. Heidi also provides training to diverse populations on various LGBTQ topics. Heidi met Debra at UCSB 31 years ago and has married her three times: 23 years ago in the presence of over 200 friends and family at a spiritual but not legal ceremony, 7 years ago at the San Diego registrar’s office during the small window in which marriage was legal in CA, and the next month at the couple’
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Corey Schoff

Living most of his life in the South and knowing he was gay since the age of four, Corey grew up feeling like he had to hide who he was to his family, friends and world. At the time, his sexuality was considered by most of society to be an illness, illegal and an abomination of God. By the age of ten, he secretly dreamed of meeting his prince and living happily ever after. He and his prince, Larry, have been together for eight mostly happy years, but more importantly their relationship has been a continuing expression of deepening intimacy. They are not married, though the recent change in marriage equality has highlighted that discussion. The personal work Corey’s done to reopen himself t
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Larry preferred not to provide his last name. Larry is a scientist and educator. He spent more than ten years of his adult life in a binational gay relationship, fearing the possible deportation of the partner that he could not legally marry. Larry has faced housing discrimination and workplace bigotry as a result of his sexuality. He has been partnered with Corey for eight years.
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