Conservation and Ethical Resource Usage

March 24, 2017
Hosted by Kelly McMillan

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The AZ Game & Fish Department shepherds so many activities that benefit fishermen, hunters, shooters, off-roaders, and many other categories of outdoorsmen. Our first guest, Director Larry Voyles of the Department, will be on hand to talk about their charter and how we all benefit from conservation and great stewardship of our lands and resources. Next, we have Jim Lawrence of the Mule Deer Foundation, to discuss their work toward ensuring the conservation of mule deer, black-tailed deer and their habitat. You’ll find out why your support of regulated hunting, along with programs that disseminate education and scientific research, contributes to the protection and ethical behavior that results in self-sustaining, healthy, free ranging and huntable deer populations.

Taking Stock with Kelly McMillan

Friday at 11 AM Pacific Time on VoiceAmerica Sports Channel

McMillan Fiberglass Stocks (MFS) began on the dining room table of Gale and Gloria McMillan in 1973. Making benchrest stocks for competitors soon forced the business into what started out as a carport and storage shed but was soon turn into a garage shop. By 1975 MFS was ready to hire its first employee, Kelly McMillan. From day one, every time Gale showed Kelly how to do something, it became his job, with the intent of freeing up Gale to build rifles.

By 1979 Kelly was made a partner, and by 1984 Kelly was in charge of running the stock shop. Since that time MFS has continued to grow with innovation and design. Today McMillan Fiberglass Stocks has a 15,000 sq. ft. facility and 65 employees. Over half of the employees have worked for MFS for over 15 years while a dozen have reached or are near 30 years with the company. MFS manufactures around 12,000 stocks per year, most of which are individual customers ordering one custom built stock at a time.

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Kelly McMillan

Kelly McMillan started working for his father Gale McMillan shortly after the company began in 1975. He immediately started learning all aspects of manufacturing fiberglass stock from design to marketing as well as personnel management. Under his guidance, the company has grown continuously setting new company records for sales and number of stocks produced nearly every year. In 2016 MFS surpassed the 12,000 stock total for the year and set a new annual sales record.

In his spare time, Kelly is an avid saltwater fisherman having fished the waters off Baja, Panama and Nicaragua. In addition, he has hunted all over North America as well as South Africa and Mozambique. He is a lifetime member of the NRA, Wild Sheep Foundation, Arizona Bighorn Sheep Society, Dallas Safari Club, Safari Club International, National Sporting Clays Association and the National Predator Hunters Association. He routinely sponsors shooting competitions as well as Shooters in many different disciplines.

He has competed in Sporting Clays at the National as well as Sportsman Team Challenge where he and his team won the B Class National Championship. Today he enjoys hunting with his children and his grandchildren.

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Episode Directory

March 2017

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February 2017

January 2017

Len Backus


In 2001 Len Backus founded LongRangeHunting.com - the premier long range hunting and shooting website in the world with 100,000 members.
In his youth Len developed a 25 unit restaurant chain. Later, he created the highest volume luxury home building business in Wisconsin.
In the first ten years of his “retirement” Len, with his wife and 2 sons, has developed his “hobby” website further to include the online LRH Store selling optics, clothing and specialty gear. He also manufactures precision long range rifles and co-presents long range shooting classes in the mountains of Wyoming.
Len has hunted in many western states plus Alaska, Canada and Mexico. Len hunted with camera on several private African photo safaris.
As a means of staying in shape for mountain hunting (at age 71) Len backpacks in the off-season. In 2017 his 7 backpack trips in the western mountains will clock 200 total miles. View Guest page

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Bob Beck


Bob Beck – Formerly a Land Developer, by trade, in the Greater Northwest. Born and raised in Oregon, his hunting career originated over 25 years ago. His Western Big Game hunts have included High Country Mule Deer, Rocky Mountain and Roosevelt Elk, Coastal Black Tail and Black Bear, Antelope and Northern Whitetail, in addition to several species in Africa, South America, New Zealand and Canada.
One of his greatest hunting experiences was solo backpacking into Wyoming’s backcountry with the end result being a 192-inch High Country Mule Deer. Most recently, he went on an Alpine heli-hunt in New Zealand, where he took his first ever Bull Tahr.
Among his long range hunting accomplishments are a confirmed 1,380 yard kill on an antelope, an 1,201 yard kill on a Rocky Mountain Elk, an 885 yard kill on a Coastal Black Bear and a couple Texas Whitetail’s at the 1,100 yard mark. Most recently Bob took his first ever 200-inch Mule Deer on the famous Bair Ranch in Colorado. View Guest page

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Craig Boddington


Craig Boddington was born and raised in Kansas where his big-game experience in the mid-1960's included pronghorn and mule deer in Wyoming, whitetail and mule deer in Kansas, and mule deer in Colorado. His outdoor writing career began in college and continued while on active duty in the USMC. He’s penned more than 4000 magazine articles and authored 23 books on hunting and shooting
He’s hunted big game in more than 30 American states, seven Canadian provinces, and five Mexican states hunting all varieties of North American big game except jaguar, walrus, and polar bear. Craig has also been on 104 African safaris, including hunting in: Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia, South Africa, Zambia, Botswana, Tanzania, Mozambique, Ethiopia, Central African Republic, Chad, Cameroon, Ghana, Tunisia, and Uganda. He is the only living American journalist who has hunted Africa's Big Five. View Guest page

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Frank DeSomma


Frank began his career in aerospace manufacturing and after 30 years, started Patriot Ordnance Factory in 2002. He firmly believes in manufacturing symbols of Freedom that he refers to as the “Ultimate Fighting Machines”. He wants our fellow brothers in arms to be proud of, and own, the finest most durable and accurate firearms made by American Patriots for American Patriots. Frank promotes patriotism while selling the Symbols of Freedom that he manufactures. The American flag and “God Bless America” is engraved on every one of POF’s firearms.
He’s proud to be an American with the ability to manufacture products engineered to defend us against tyrants and tyranny, while easily used for hunting, competitive shooting, and personal protection. View Guest page

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Bud Fini


Born in Brideport CT, Bud Fini spent 4 years serving at the Elmendorf AFB in Alaska. Those years increased Bud’s passion for hunting as he harvested sheep, goat, caribou, small game and ptarmigan.
Bud joined Remington Arms in 1976 in a field sales position finally holding the position of Head of the Firearms Group when he left in 1996 after the company was sold.
He’s worked for Mossberg, Savage Arms, Perrazzi USA, Rizzini USA and then came back to SIG as VP of Marketing. He is now the Executive VP of Ammunition and Special Projects to the CEO, while also managing the SigSauer Academy.
Mr. Fini is an avid hunter and shooter, travelling to competitions in his 5th wheel with his wife, across the nation. View Guest page

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Frank Galli


Frank Galli founded Sniper’s Hide in 2000. He is a former USMC Scout Sniper having graduated from the School at Stone’s Bay in 1986. Mr. Galli was stationed at Camp Lejeune with 1st Battalion 2nd Marines and then participated in both Operations Earnest Will and Praying Mantis as a Sniper with MAGTF 2-88.
Currently he teaches precision rifle classes worldwide as well as offering online training lessons as part of the Sniper’s Hide website. His videos have received over 4 Million views. Frank is an active Long Range shooter and competitor, and was an adjunct Instructor at Rifles Only from 2003 to 2011. Currently he resides outside Denver Colorado. View Guest page

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Jon Geib


During Jonathan’s 11 year US Army carrier he graduated from many elite schools to include the US Army Ranger School and the US Army Sniper School. He has served as a Sniper, Sniper Team Leader, Sniper Section Leader, and Pre-Ranger Instructor. These experiences helped pave the way towards a new business Partnership: JJ Rock Co.
JJ Rock Co. was co-founded by Jonathan and other industry -leading experts in machining and distribution. JJ Rock Co.’s initial Offering to the Public will be high-end, custom rifle actions and full custom rifle builds. This initial goal will help JJ Rock Co. offer a quality, American-made product that will assist, prepare, and equip the men and women of our US Armed Forces, Law Enforcement Agencies, and Civilian Shooters. View Guest page

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Mary Hagen


A 24-year-old entrepreneur and multi-business owner, Mary Hagen has her sights set on the outdoors industry. Through her grassroots apparel company, Mary has opened doors to shooting and other outdoors sports for women in unique and defining ways.
After years of wearing men’s gear to participate in her own hobbies (bow hunting, recreational shooting, etc.), Mary took control of the issue at hand, and began designing a solution. Less than a year later, the most effective, practical and fashionable gear and the only digital camouflage made just for women in the US was designed, and she called it Hagen Hunting. The rest is history!
Hagen believes that by making the outdoors more accessible for women through the apparel and gear available to them, the sporting industry will see the day when women lead the charge in hunting and shooting sports. View Guest page

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Iain Harrison


Harrison was born in the United Kingdom. He served as a recce platoon commander for the British Army. He moved to the United States and started working as a construction manager in Sherwood, Oregon after being forced to surrender his guns to the UK government, while pursuing competitive shooting.
In 2009, Harrison finished second in Trooper Class in the 2009 MGM Ironman multi-gun competition. Being an amateur gunsmith, the guns he used during the competition were made by himself. Harrison worked for Crimson Trace at this time. In December 2011, Harrison gained US citizenship.
Harrison became the editor of RECOIL in January 2013 to bring a strong Second Amendment viewpoint to the magazine; he writes several articles for each issue as well. View Guest page

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Darrel Holland


Worked at Gunsite for two years. First Gunsite Gunsmith, taught defensive shooting. Designed and developed sights and safeties for 1911's Browning HiPowers. Developed first AR and Ruger 10-22 heavy barrels in 1977. Designed muzzle brakes and barrel tuners for rifles. Early pioneer in reticle technology (Advanced Reticle Technology) in Leupold and Schmidt & Bender scopes. Advisory Panel Gunsmith for VHA magazine. Shooting Editor for Trail of The Sportsman Magazine. Contributor to Nosler Reloading manuals. Produced training DVDs for American Gunsmithing Institute. Teaches L/R shooting at his Oregon and Texas facilities. Designed the first L/H windage dial on Schmidt & Bender rifle scopes in 2002. Holder of several patents related to the shooting and survival industry. Manufactures complete line of hunting and shooting products. NRA, VHA and SCI Life Member. View Guest page

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Sandi Keller


Sandi Keller is the designer and owner of OffHand Gear. With an extensive background in - oh heck she’s a woman, her background is pretty typical, work, kids, errands, cleaning, cooking . . . yada, yada, yada. And, yes, she found that learning to shoot a gun was a heck of a lot of fun!
Like many women, this love of guns and desire to train had her raising her hands to the sky exclaiming “Why isn’t anyone creating things to make this easier?!!” So, with big girl panties on and rolled up sleeves, she set out to fill a void in the gun industry - design badass gear for women!
Since those early OffHand Gear days in 2012, she has designed and developed original, American made products, like NORB (No Ordinary Range Bag), NORM (No Ordinary Range Mat) and some very unique AR15 hand guards. Her beautiful hand guards make any AR look like a piece of art while proving tough & purposeful in design. View Guest page

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Bennet Langlotz


Ben Langlotz is the nation’s leading firearms patent and trademark attorney, the gun patent lawyer. He is trusted by more firearms industry companies than any other lawyer or law firm in the nation, and is consistently ranked at the top of all attorneys in securing gun patents and gun trademarks. Nearly every firearms industry CEO has a copy of Ben’s essential book The Bulletproof Firearms Business – The Legal Secrets to Success Under Fire, which is the best-selling book on intellectual property law for firearms business owners. Ben’s insights into the law and politics of the firearms industry are followed each month by thousands of gun industry leaders who receive Ben’s Bulletproof® Firearms Business monthly newsletter. There’s a good reason why the industry’s biggest names like Steve Hornady, Ronnie Barrett, Aaron Hogue, and Kelly McMillan reach for Ben’s newsletter each month. Through his newsletter, firearms inventors and new start-ups will gain access to industry insight. View Guest page

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Jim Lawrence


Jim Lawrence serves on the MDF Board of Directors and wears many hats with MDF locally in Arizona as well having served as Chapter Chairman, State Chairman, Project Review Committee (PRC) Chairman and on the MDF Arizona Leadership Committee. Most weekends, you will find Jim and his MDF volunteers out in a remote area of Arizona, developing a new natural water spring, converting existing windmills with more efficient solar panels or removing old barbed wire fencing which is unfriendly to wildlife. Jim also received the Arizona Game and Fish Department’s (AZGFD) 2016 “Conservationist of the Year Award. Jim is also the liaison for MDF and AZGFD’s Adopt-A-Ranch program. This program brings ranchers and wildlife groups together for the common goal of wildlife conservation.
MDF is one of the most efficient, highest ranked non–profits in America, with over 92% of its revenue going towards on the ground projects. In 2016 alone, MDF spent over 6 million dollars to support its mission. View Guest page

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Bryan Litz


Bryan Litz has spent the majority of his shooting career in the Palma discipline where he’s won numerous regional, national and international level matches in addition to holding many national records. Most notable was winning the Queens Prize in Australia, 2010. As a firing member on 3 winning America’s Match US Palma Teams, Bryan is a seasoned team member and knows how a team needs to work in order to win at the highest levels.
In 2002, Bryan earned his degree in aerospace engineering from Penn State University and spent the next 6 years working on air-to-air missile design with the US Air Force. After that, he was lucky enough to land a job with Berger Bullets as Chief Ballistician. Bryan later went on to found Applied Ballistics where he works as a ballistician; testing and reporting on all things related to long range shooting and external ballistics.
Bryan lives in rural Michigan with his wife and 4 kids. View Guest page

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Regina Milkovich


Regina Milkovich is currently the top female in the Precision Rifle Series and has been since the series began in 2012. Last year, Regina became the first female to win an overall in a national level tactical precision rifle match when she took 1st place at the NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge in April. She finished the 2016 season in 23rd place overall after many top 10 finishes in competitions around the country. When she’s not practicing for upcoming competitions, she can usually be found at the range training newer shooters or in the reloading room she shares with her husband, Tim. View Guest page

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Tim Milkovich


Tim is a US Military veteran with 12 years of service. He served in the Infantry, as Military Police Officer and Firearms Instructor. Tim has been a Deputy Sheriff for the last 12.5 years currently assigned to the Training Division. His assignments have been in Court Security, Patrol, Special Assignment Unit (SAU) and at the range as an instructor and armorer. He’s also been a competitive shooter for 30 years in some sort of shooting sport having competed in Bullseye, Pistol Silhouette, IPSC/USPSA, 3gun and now mainly in precision rifle. View Guest page

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Freddy Osuna


Combat Tracking Subject Matter Expert, Mr. Freddy Osuna is a trusted authority on the subject of visual tracking and is the published author of “Index Tracking- Essential Guide to Trailing Man and Beast,” 2012. He is also a contributing writer to Breach Bang Clear, Recoil Magazine and various other military and law enforcement related publications. His knowledge is based on a foundation of real-world deployments and formal Combat Tracking instructor experience with U.S. and allied militaries, federal, state, and municipal law enforcement entities. Osuna’s innovative approach to teaching the craft of visual tracking and sensory awareness is turning heads among the nation’s top hard skills trainers. Osuna harnesses his Native American and Marine Corps culture to deliver holistic, powerful, and scientific based lessons steeped in North American tracker lineage. View Guest page

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Jonathan Owen


Co-Founder of Special Hunting Weapons And Tactics™, Jonathan Owen didn’t grow up hunting. The 4-H shooting sports program opened the door to shooting basic air rifles on an improvised range set up inside his parents’ house. After college, a friend invited Jonathan to go white tail hunting in Texas. After five freezing outings cloaked in unbroken silence with seemingly no deer in the same zip code, Jonathan concluded hunting wasn’t for him. Some years later Jonathan got dragged out on a hog hunt, the kind where a Texas farmer is on a mission to rid his golden wheat fields of feral hogs. The kind of hunt where an AR-15 and 30 round magazines are much more reasonable than grandpa’s .30-06. The excitement around that experience ultimately lead to the creation of SHWAT.com where contributors and fans share the enjoyment of shooting, hunting, adventure and the technology that enhances it. View Guest page

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Paul Phillips


Paul Phillips is the Adjutant of the US Rifle Team. He served in the United States Marine Corp as an Infantryman and earned his Combat Action Ribbon. After the service, Paul earned a bachelor’s degree in Criminal Justice from Michigan State University while also winning the 1996 NRA Long Range Collegiate Championship. Later, he graduated top of his class in FBI sniper school. Since then, he has won Gold Medals as a shooting member of both the 2009 and 2013 World Championship teams, four America Match teams and Ten National Championship teams. Paul has set, tied or broken over 45 NRA National Shooting Records and earned his International Distinguished Shooting Badge #19 in 2016. Paul started shooting ELR in 2016, and won the King of 2 Miles as the wind coach. His contagious interest, and success, in pushing the boundaries of ELR has helped generate growing interest in the sport! View Guest page

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Steven Reichert


Steve Reichert is a retired combat wounded Marine having served in the infantry with special duty assignments in Pakistan, Russia and Turkey. He was instrumental in the development and fielding of the DARPA XM-3 sniper rifle, and is the man who was behind McMillian creating the A1-3 stock. Steve was the driving force behind T1G, one of our Nation’s largest Special Operations training centers. The training programs established under his watch enabled the company to grow from a start-up to an industry leader in just three years. His company was directly responsible for training over eight thousand of our nation’s top tier forces during his tenure as CEO. Steve now works on integrating technologies to develop innovative technological products that directly benefit the special operations community as well as other agencies. View Guest page

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Craig 'Sawman' Sawyer


Marine, Navy SEAL, High-Threat Mobile Security Contractor, Tactical Trainer and Tech Advisor for Film & Television. View Guest page

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Courtney Smith


I’m Courtney Smith; I grew up in the outdoors: hiking, fishing, skiing, and camping. My husband introduced me to hunting just over 4 years ago. I have a passion for the outdoors, adventure and conservation. For me it is not so much about the kill as it is the experience and helping educate others, including anti-hunters, about the ethics involved in hunting.
One of my biggest prides, is that I consider myself a hard worker when hunting. It’s not uncommon for us to sleep in a tent or wake up at 2am to go hunt public land and stay till dark. I have also always had a desire to help educate women on how to be comfortable in the outdoors, which is why I decided to make my Instagram account public and use it to spread my story. I found that hunting and the outdoors are where I can truly help and connect with others by sharing the knowledge and failures I have gained through my experiences. View Guest page

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Ryan Sorenson


Ryan Sorensen is a lifelong hunter, fisherman, shooter and lover of wild places. He grew up in rural Utah chasing any game that was huntable and wetting a line every chance he got. In his late teens he had the opportunity to spend a few years living in the West African country of Ivory Coast and quickly became obsessed with Africa. After returning to the states he married a terrific woman that shared his passion for the outdoors. 16 years and 6 kids later, he and Kolbi enjoy passing on the outdoor legacy to their kids.
Ryans greatest hunting love stateside is chasing the elusive high country, public ground Mule Deer. African plains game comes in a close second. Ryan has hunted across the Western US and in Africa with trips to New Zealand in the near future and Africa any chance he gets. View Guest page

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Cheryl & Dan Todd


Dan & Cheryl Todd are the Owner of AZFirearms, Pot Of Gold Auctions, and Executive Producers and Hosts of Gun Freedom Radio. They bring a unique voice to the Firearms Industry and a desire to instill the value of the Second Amendment in generations to come. Cheryl is a sought-after Speaker and has published several articles. Dan is a Master Gun Smith, Firearms Expert and has grown AZFirearms to an impressive collection of over 1,000 firearms. AZFirearms has something for everyone, from the first-time gun owner to the most avid collector.
They travel the Country speaking out for Second Amendment Rights and have appeared on various news outlets. They support organizations such as Refuse To Be A Victim, Child Safe, The Eddie Eagle Program, DC Project, several other industry charities, and hold an annual First Responders Appreciation Day Fundraiser.
For more info go to GunFreedomRadio.com. View Guest page

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Director Larry Voyles


Larry Voyles is the Director of the Arizona Game and Fish Department and served as President of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies (AFWA) from September 2014 to September 2015. Larry has worked for the Arizona Game and Fish Department for 42 years starting out as a District Wildlife Manager with responsibilities for wildlife management, fisheries management, public affairs and law enforcement at a district level.
Larry serves on a variety of national boards including the Council to Advance the Hunting and Shooting Sports, he represents the State Wildlife Agencies on the Wildlife and Hunter Heritage Conservation Council, Co-Chair of the Agency/Industry Coalition, the US Sportsman Alliance Youth Program Advisory Council, Western Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, Legal Committee (Chair). Director Voyles’ department has approximately 600 employees, a 100 million dollar budget and owns or manages 274,000 acres of land including a variety of wildlife areas. View Guest page

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Todd Wickstrom


Todd grew up in Southern California and starred in several TV commercials as a child. Escaping SoCal in 1993 he transferred to Boise State to complete his marketing degree. He started Sushi on the Spot in 1996, selling it in 2011 and then successfully implemented a wholesale supplement distribution company named Wicky Wicky.
He also started Guns Gong Crazy in 2012 because he simply did not like the portable steel target options that were available at the Big Box stores or online. It was at that moment that he knew there was an opportunity for a low cost, easily transportable steel system.
His targets can now be found in Bix Box outlets as well as on his website www.gunsgongcrazy.com View Guest page

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